Teen Gothic

Yo so long story short I've saved up some cash and am travelling across the the states from Salt lake city all the way into to Canada Toronto. Wonder if i could get any cool bars/ venues to hit up, scenes to check out n shit. Big into my old 80s new wave, Goth and Punk. ATM im hitting up Salt Lake City, Milwaukee, Chicago, Detroit and Toronto. I'm gonna be backpacking, getting lifts with friend's and staying in hostels and friend's couches. Any ideas or pointers would be amazing!

Any places to hit up to meet some cool people in general would be class. Big Love ta

Correct me if i’m wrong, but conservative goth seems like an oxymoron

On various social media I have seen people making posts about how they are “disgusted with people denying their political beliefs in goth culture” but I feel like when you get into a subculture that is well known to be anti establishment, anti-capitalism and pro human rights you would expect that.

What makes me really upset with this is that I have seen too often these “conservative goths” are transphobic when the culture was literally made to free people, like trans people who are oppressed societally.

It gets even worse with people trying to say they’re conservative punks which imo is an even more politicized subculture.

My boyfriend is gonna propose to me soon (relevant I promise) we've even picked out a ring together and we already know it will be a pretty small wedding, we don't have a lot of friends or even extended family who would really want to be there, so we have decided against a DJ, but I'll be honest it's also partly because I'd like to have a little more control over the music given that my tastes are what they are. So basically here it is, most if not all of the friends I'm inviting are also really into goth music, and it's also something I would want to include in the reception while everyone is dancing and having fun. Because when I personally think of dancing and letting loose, I think of goth.

But here's the thing, there will still be family members at the wedding, so essentially I'm looking for examples of goth music that won't seem partivularly abrasive or offensive to non goth adults in theyr 50s/60s. I'll be mixing them in with other music targeted more at some of our other guests so everyone will find something they'll like. I'll also take suggestions for "goth friendly but not necessarily goth" songs/ bands that some of my friends who'vebeen into goth a bit longer than I have would still likely enjoy, just to beef up the playlist a bit and have more options. It doesn't need to necessarily be anything a mainstream crowd of that age would LOVE, just something they wouldn't be too shocked to hear and wouldn't cause too much of a stir, thanks so much for the help. Bonus points for themes involving love/ romance.

I’m new here so I want to share a picture and say hi, but I also have a question:

How are we defining elder goths? Is it age? How long someone has been goth? And what is that golden elder goth number?

so, i don't use tiktok but a friend of mine who does asked me if the "clean goth girl aesthetic" is acceptable in the goth culture or not. i know we're accepting and teach baby bats about us but theres a lot of hate revolving around them specifically. i told my friend that the way to become a goth is by listening to the music and explained it to her, her response was "i think these girls only wear black but don't listen to ur music."

help me determine this because i can't tell of they actually r interested in goth culture or they’re just posing for a "viral tiktok trend"

I am so sick and BORED of my non goth friends not being interested or bailing on me for the goth events and clubs. I miss so many events and waste money on tickets all the time now. I’ve been ready to go to the necropolis rave for hours now because a couple of my friends led me on to think they’d come with me, just to get me off their back, but only to tell me ‘nevermind’ in the last minute – I obviously can’t go by myself in this dark because it’s not safe and literally all the goth events are at night.

If ur in or close enough to west London and u want to go to the goth nights then please just message me on Instagram @the_real_fucking_dracula

I’m 18+ but still under 21 so clubs are not an option. i’m just a college student in the area and I literally have never made any friends who have likes the same music or fashion as me. where do the cool ppl hang out omg. HELP. i’ve been to a few shows at rgrs in denton when they have like dark wave music but all the people are so old.